RB: “I’d like to know your name and where you’re from, can you tell me, and look into the camera? Is that alright?”

E: “Yes, okay.”

RB: “________”

E: “[sad eyes]-[SMILING NOW] My name is E______ and I’m from Holland.”

E: “Ok”

RB ” OK, thank you. It’s very kind.”

E: “[eating granola-bar, eyes off].”